Tuesday, March 06, 2012

calling Fatmarc and Chip out

Chipstick Inc and FatmarcVanderbacon

both of youz

can we move on from the type in these illegible letters to prove you aren't a robot after comments?

Really?

please?

I don't and haven't had em on for a while now...  sure, i don't generate the bots that your sex and filth ridden excuses of blogs generate but, I get zero bots posting and when/if they do, well *zap* they ain't there no more.

I had to refresh 4 times before I could actually interpret what the stupid letters where saying with my Donnie Yen comment.

Oh and I like Tilford's POV on the whole Garmin/Strava thing.  I have posted a few things to strava, but they were collected on a borrowed Garmin.  Using something twice, a month apart, is no way to judge it.  But it was kind of a pain in the butt to upload it.  It brought flashbacks of me d/l'n every day off the power tap head unit way back when.  And I didn't like it so much.  I do have a computer that reads heart rates. A great and very helpful suggestion from Demarest to use the HR stuff to make the commute work more effectively for me.  But it doesn't record (no i never got around to putting batteries in the Polar after Nate gave me the Sigma). Someday I suppose.  Someday again maybe.  For now? It works.

One more thing.  No amount of practice is going to make you taller.  No amount of practice is going to make you faster than your potential.  Oh wait.  don't tell the clients of all those coaches out there...  And yes SOLOBREAK - so few people reach their potential that there is still plenty of work for the coaches to do.

9 comments:

solobreak said...

The phone-based strava painlessly uploads itself as soon as the ride is done. Too bad the GPS is so far off that 80% of the time it doesn't recognized the segments you passed over.

And... For a self-proclaimed scientist, you sure seem to miss a lot. And aren't you supposed to research opposing viewpoints? Anyway, I know you love those RSA science guys, but think about the definition of "elite." Do you really believe you need to be genetically gifted in order to excel at the local/regional level in an obscure sport like cycling? I know it's not a popular viewpoint among bike racers, but wouldn't you expect kids with these genetic gifts to gravitate toward pro sports where 7 and 8 figure salaries are the norm?

Or in terms perhaps more in line with your occupation, should people with an average IQ forego school because they can never be "elite?"

Crying about genetics is an excuse to accept that you don't really want to improve. Nothing really wrong with that either. Bike racing is humbling. But genetically inferior or not, you're still king of the East Bay Bike Path right?

gewilli said...

i'm just beating on that issue because you're so opposed to it and always manage to come back with some witty and cutting counter argument.

i'm still striving, working and pushing... i recognize that there is little chance of me actually ever coming up against my genetic potential.

solobreak said...

I'm glad that you're not one of the people who treat it like a joke. I've played "beer league softball" and believe me, local USAC bike racers are 100 times more committed as athletes. We have a national structure, paid officials, rules, and athletes who, even at the lowest level, put in 300+ hours per year on the bike. You know it's serious. But it's still a fringe activity. If you work at it, you can get pretty good, compared to the general population anyway. Amongst ourselves, someone is always going to be better than you. It's one reason I like road racing. You don't have to be physically the best in order to have a chance at winning. But I still like CX, running races, and time trials too. You have to learn to love the process, not the results.

gewilli said...

I may be flippant, sarcastic and a dumbass about stuff but it isn't a joke, I don't treat it like one in practice.

I think i've addressed my familiarity of a fringe activity with in a fringe activity recently.

I get it.

If Tom Brady was born and raised in Belgium he might be racing along side Tom Boonen... that's what this country does. And what each country seems to do. Funnel talent towards the most lucrative avenue given availability.

No denying that.

But, there is also no denying that there are genetic limiters. Many you can over come with adaptation with extreme stimulus and response over a long time. But only up to a limit and maybe only to the level where some people reach naturally effortlessly.

The height argument is not without validity when discussing genetic potential.

G-ride and Ringer are never going to be able to reach the top shelf without a step stool no matter how many years they try and stretch.
(low hanging fruit - couldn't pass it up)

solobreak said...

I'll bet you can beat Tom Brady in a bike race. It might be effortless for you to pick an apple too. But never discount the effort that even "gifted" athletes need to put out to win.

And you could always apply some of this science to get faster rather than using it to explain why you don't...

gewilli said...

I've seen what "gifted" athletes put out and understand that most of them actually work as hard or harder than the less genetically gifted.

And I've taken a page from some and am just not talking about specifics of my riding and what I'm doing, mostly because it is all just testing and trying stuff out all the time.

Maybe I should do a Kickstarter to pay for a powermeter and garmin and strava pro account so everyone can follow along with every minute of my "training."

Or i just keep doing what I'm doing, and see what happens in the fall when it counts.

hey, it's me said...

1. I dig strava. It's fun. The segments , around the local trails and roads are cool too. We are a much smaller community and few few folks use it. I'm guessing that at some point it will get old, but right now, it's new and shiny and fun.

2. per your request all word verification has been removed. I mean since you are one 6 people who still read my blog, least I can do is make you happy.

gewilli said...

I like strava, I like the emails telling me how much everyone is riding (or at least uploading/reporting).

and Fatmarc - you're awesome! I'll try not to comment too much more now that it isn't there!

hey, it's me said...

I love that morning email.
it's a good way to start the day for sure...

rock on and feel free to comment as much as you like!

respect
fmv