(i'm gonna add bits that i find striking) Jan's back in Germany...

Yeah...

Ulrich is said to be back in Germany already.

All he has to do is take a walk and be back in Germany...

"oooh he's back in germany"

sorry Pez/Edmond Hood... but that's a stupid comment... maybe not stupid, somewhat too vague? I dunno - its just funny that they are starting in the most german of all French Cities, right across the border from Germany and they are pointing out that Jan is back home maybe he needed to take a nap in his altitude tent...

Geo, correctly brought up the Track and Field /cycling stigma as druggies, but compared to NFL, MLB, where everyone's juiced its sad... who cares if the whole Yankee team is juiced if they win... imagine the fallout if the baseball teams had to drop players who were implicated like they do in cycling...

San Fran Giants anyone?

kinda enough to make ya queasy...

Patrick O'Grady has weighed in on the subject... almost as eloquent as Geo

Here's this quote:

Rolf Aldag, former Ullrich colleague: "Of course this is very hard, but then maybe it is a chance for cycling to really clean itself up. When you earn five million a year, then maybe you are more willing to take a risk with your health. I think that cycling will learn a bigger lesson from this affair than it did from the 1998 Tour scandal."

I like Rolf... hopefully his words are prophetic...

Oh and am i Clairvoyant for having stated that Ullirch will not win the tour this year? I didn't think he'd not win this way, but... its the same no? he doesn't win a tour. I might have even blabbed as much to say that he will never win the Tour... hell i might even be right on that account as well... surely his career it toast if this comes to be true...