can explain the educated masses who support creationism:
I prefer the company of peasants because they have not been educated sufficiently to reason incorrectly.
- Michel de Montaigne
Saw one blog that i was following and had mentioned here a few times and who's content was at times quite educational. At least that is how it seemed. Seems this person went off about professing their faith as a Christian and their belief in creationism. Suggesting that maybe there is something to the evolution but at the same time refutes that "we" evolved from slime. We evolved from early species of the genus Homo and they evolved from some ancestral relative of an ape. baby steps. incomprehensible? no just a really big pictures that is hard to grasp for many.
Yeah, i'm being intolerant. But, being intolerant of ignorance? Intolerant of a view that is rigid and inflexible.
I don't want to get into a debate here, just expressing my frustration. And getting back in the swing of typing in the few seconds if insanity. If these self professed creationists who turn a blind eye to science are doing good, reducing their carbon footprint and carrying on otherwise commendable lifestyles it lessens the blow in some ways but makes it sting much more. I believe strongly that there is room for faith with science. I am not saying anything regarding religion or which is right or if it is anything more than a moral code to base your life on, but that ignoring facts and using illogical circular unreviewed "science" to satisfy your inability to grasp that humans evolved from something else (slowly and over millions and millions of years), it is just disappointing. On one side though i guess it is equally tough for the uneducated and intelligently challenged to grasp just exactly how evolution works.
Still got one more entry on the memory stick to dump here... maybe i'll save it for tomorrow.
I got a boat load of material to beef about. Paper vs Plastic. And yes it is a delimma now. That is unless you are doing the ONLY sensible thing and bringing your own fabric bags to reuse.
Coffee and Cleavage? Yeah i watched sunday morning and that bit on the slightly more revealing baristas in Seattle caught my eye. nice idea.
Bunch of other things. Like the doper's actually having clinical mental illness. And then thinking, is it really mental illness? Isn't it just a biological fuck up in the chemical pathways that comes down to messed up genetics and/or loss of function? And is that mental pysco babble or real doctor area? I don't think we should keep treating the brain as a different branch of science and all that as it "seems" to be to the public. Make it all medical and all that. Although the whole notion of medical stuff is wacked.
lots of tangents built up with a week off. Solobreak's gonna thing i've gone all town square preacher like telling people WHAT TO DO... THE FLOOD IS COMING (don't be me started on that)...
Nah, i'm just venting, getting it off my chest, out of my head. The ramblings here are often contradictory, strange, non-sensical. But they help me keep my head straight. And stay just some what more sane. "But, GeWilli, that is why i go riding!" Well, GeWilli goes riding and winds up with all this stuff floating around in his head. For an overthinker a bike ride is a kick ass physical release but it ain't so much a good mental release. Not like writing anyway.
It feels like lunch right now. I'm hungry so i'm eating. Then i'll go home and make some dinner.
And eat that.
Food, food is good. Eat good food. Can't afford good food? Eat less! Sad to say many of the overweight and obese people in this country are living on very very cheap food and spending many dollars on weight loss products/plans/whatever. Spend MORE money on LESS food that is HIGHER quality and you might be slimmer. There are always exceptions and body type and exercise and all that play into it. You won't get slimmer just changing what you eat and nothing else. great. i've dug a hole and can't get out...
other than by saying...
peace, respect and all it is HOT out, but gonna be hotter tomorrow...
G
or no
Monday, June 25, 2007
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8 comments:
i know its PC to call christians ignorant...but what about the jews, should we call thier beliefs ignorant too?
lets just be fair across the board and say that unless someone is an aethist who believes evolution, they are ignorant. sound good?
i agree that turning a blind eye to proven facts, doesnt accomplish anything... but still, once could say that YOU are being rigid and inflexible by implying that there is no possible way that creation happened.
there was an interesting article in (i believe) newsweek maybe 7 months ago about some creationist scientist who had an interesting take on alot of this stuff, as he came from an aetheist background..
cant remember who it was though... but it was interesting.
anyways...
cross is less than 3 months away :)
I knew it wouldn't come out quite right.
Faith and science should be kinda like church and state were meant to be and are in say, Europe (for the most part, for better or worse).
It IS possible to be christian, jewish, islamic, buddist and at the same time not professing that what the facts are showing is wrong.
the few creationists/intelligent design folks are good at what they do because they make passion based arguments that distort and ignore many facts.
The pure sampling issue that we have in the USA with more than 1/2 of the country believing in creation and NOT evolution (not darwin's evolution folks, that ain't the current thing) is scary.
Darwin wrote a book. The bible is a book. BOOKS ARE NOT THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF INFALIBILITY.
write a book. hell put up a web page. all ya gotta do is have someone publish it and read it/distribute it and boom you CAN be famous or at least make people believe in you.
Look at the atkins diet books, south beach... all the diet books. They are in some ways contradictory but lots and lots of people are FAITHFUL followers in them.
People smoke. But smoking kills you faster than non smoking. Want to debate that?
It is pretty much the same. Saying creationism (as the literal translationists believe it to be) is correct is like saying there is nothing wrong with smoking and it has no adverse health risks.
I like flying spaghetti monsters!
the FSM is a very viable religious alternative... and is VERY entertaining and really no less ridiculous than any other religion...
Ramen to that brother.
I keep coming back to this entry.
The biggest challenge is the complete and total divisiveness that this issue causes.
Can you believe "in the man upstairs" and still "believe" in evolution? Yes. Very much so.
Can you acknowledge scientific facts and conclusions reached by independent and diverse fields of investigation and still find peace and comfort in your religion?
Absolutely.
Problem is saying such a crazy statement that i did in the post makes it a tinder box scary issue to deal with. If you say how you feel you are bound to piss off at least 50% of the people. Either the half that believes in the complete and total word of god as written in the old testament, or the folks who put more weight in the scientific journals like Science and Nature.
And in light of making peace, we must not allow our anger (as i did above) to rise to the top and divide and create walls that cannot be scaled.
We've gotta work to figure out how to make issues like this not a canyon but a bridge.
*sigh*
oh well...
I'm not perfect, but if i don't discover my flaws and expose them i can't actively fix them to become a better person.
naw naw dude. you didnt piss me off, or offend me.
btw the article i was thinking of, was by francis collins...and oops, he is not a creationist, but rather a theistic evolutionist. interesting article regardless.
and you have to admit that not everything that is stated as "fact" regarding evolution is actually a proven fact. more of a, ummm... 'widely accepted theory'. creation or evolution... they both take a degree of faith.
the difference is a perponderance of evidence supporting evolution, and more and more and more facts that all support the same theory.
Creationism and all that? Nothing more than what is written. It is like biblical archaeology. If you start digging looking for a "cup" you WILL find the cup if you keep digging till you find one. If you are looking to prove something written, then that ain't science.
If you look at the facts and try to explain them. Then ask if people agree, and ask people to test it by looking at different facts and they agree. That is progression of science. Heck they don't have to agree even. disagreement often leads to better science.
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