PBS ran a bit on the 15th good bit of a read. I've seen some people call it pseudoscience, but even lacking full scientific peer-reviewed status, there's a hell of a lot more right in there than wrong.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/03/seven-foods-you-think-are-healthy-but-arent.html
Follow just that Hexane bit up here: http://cornucopia.org/hexane-guides/hexane_guide_bars.html
And then there's the whole 'natural' additive issue. Personally the chemical flavoring in orange juice isn't worth the trade off, but it is for some. This Carrageenan report is a bit sensationalist but very much on point and in agreement with avoiding eating unprocessed crap. That link was emailed to me the other day by a nameless snappy dressed dude.
Heck, go play around over on The Cornucopia's web site. Always read with an open mind and your own perspective.
Lim and Biju, Bittman, Pollan... that crew. They know what they are talking about. Bittman does the best at demystifying cooking process and showing you how to eat well. Lim and Biju do a good job talking about the requirements for endurance athletes and give you the tools to avoid the crap in the links above. Pollan is a prominent vocal dude who also knows his shit and has done more to raise awareness than many.
those first two have an associate with maybe some of cycling's shadier past but their nutrition is sound, it makes sense, it works, and compared to many people's diets would be like doping with PEDs to switch to that style of eating for every meal.
"I don't have time." Talk ti Bittman. he'll laugh at you and then show you how you actually have plenty of it.
Cookie ride. Soon. Talk about clean power source... mmm
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Hey so you think about this stuff a lot so could you compare these: http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9927187 and http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9923955
The acute oral toxicity of n-hexane appears significantly lower than grain alcohol (LD50 about 5x higher).
I'll agree that processing food ingredients in industrial solvents doesn't seem like a great idea, but if you're really concerned about trace amounts of n-hexane in your Clif Bar, then I don't think you'd want to set foot in a tavern or liquor store either. When you're getting drunk you're pouring massive quantities of solvent down your throat. Why is this OK but 14 ppm of n-hexane in soy protein a huge concern?
We're probably ingesting (and subsequently metabolizing) a lot more solvents by gluing up a single tire than we would in a lifetime of eating soy proteins. Doesn't make it good for you, but why sensationalize the threat? What is your real agenda here Gewilli?
This article was pretty weak. You'd maintain higher credibility if you were more selective.
I know you love the comments. Keep up the good blogging work.
those two links... one says this:
Very hazardous in case of ingestion, of inhalation. Hazardous in case of skin contact (permeator). Slightly hazardous in case
of skin contact (irritant).
and the other says this:
Hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of inhalation. Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (permeator), of ingestion.
One targets reproductive cells, the other: May cause damage to the following organs: peripheral nervous
system, skin, central nervous system (CNS).
One you don't need to worry about at all when you're done having kids, the other can permanently mess you up.
That said Hexane is an environmental toxin, ride by a gas station and you're probably exposed to plenty.
Avoidable risk, informed public.
pick and chose what parts of the MSDS you want to look at, LD50 is a pretty poor indicator of much more than the lethal dose. You can live a long time with a messed up nervous system, but your quality of like might really suck.
Not sure how you could read those and come up with alcohol being nothing to worry about once you're done having kids.
Are you saying you believe that the quantities of alcohol you personally consume pose a less significant health risk than the trace amounts of n-hexane consumed by a typical user of products containing processed soy proteins? (energy bars, etc)
nah the trace amounts of hexane in bars are probably, and agreeably not much to worry about.
Pomace Olive oil probably has way more hexanes and solvents in them than the soy protein.
Alcohol is toxic, can kill you pretty easily.
But there are biological pathways to metabolize it. Unlike Hexane.
Think about hexane sort of like lead, or mercury, or arsenic.
Excessive H20 can kill you as easily as ETOH.
I'm not trying to rationalize my personal alcohol consumption which has been very light in recent months (with one or two notable exceptions), that's what you want to project on the discussion.
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